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New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:55 pm

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My GTX 260 was working it's bollocks off playing the Star Wars beta. It plays MW3 and stuff fine but the fan was going overtime on Swtor.

So I've decided to upgrade but not really sure what to go for. I see Nvidia have released the new 560ti 448 core cards (which are basically a 570) but the prices are not as good as I hoped they would be :( Seem a bit too close to 570 pricing. My 260 was the upgraded core version of the 260, so I quite fancied the upgraded 560.

So not sure how to go. Will spend upto 200 quid on a card. Never touched ATI before in my pc as heard lots about shitty drivers and noisy cards

Also want to get a 24" monitor and it's either pay alot for a Samsung or maybe Ilyama LED. Thinking spending about 150 quid on a screen.

Any advice be greatly appreciated. Been a while since I upgraded these bits (3yrs).

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Klors on Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:55 pm

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Pers wrote:Never touched ATI before in my pc as heard lots about shitty drivers and noisy cards .

Interestingly, that's all I ever see about nVidia cards. :)

I've had very few issues with the ATi/AMD cards, had one that was noisy (hd2900?). Had driver issues with two or three games (over the years and different cards), but they were all solved by updating to the latest driver. The one I have now has been beautiful, might be a Sapphire 5850 or 5870 XTREME that have the custom cooler on it. No idea if the 68xx are similar noise/performance.

I've also had very few issues with the 1 nVidia card I've owned, but that was a long time ago.
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Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:26 pm

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Well I think it was the 2*** series that put me off and I've always stuck with Nvidia. Not has any problems with them so would stay with.

However if an ATi card is a better bet and offers better or equal performance I'll try it.

Looking for something that is super quiet.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:57 pm

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Went with the Asus 570 GTX cos its like 20 quid more than these new 560 448 cores.

Whats with this mini hdmi bollocks :( Had to buy a convertor.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby larchy on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:42 pm

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Radeon 7000 series launching on the 5th, retail availability in January....

Nevermind.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Quinnbeast on Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:55 pm

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My ATI card has a full size HDMI port, so ner.

Interestingly, that's all I ever see about nVidia cards.


Same here. I'm bias and proud.

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Postby Defrag on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:11 am

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Avoid factory overclocked 560 Ti cards. That's all I have to contribute.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:13 pm

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Well Larch I read about them but I've never had a problem with Nvidia so I will remain loyal.

Plus I really like the look of the Asus card.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Cacker on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:39 am

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Well my gigabytes running BF3 fine at -

GPU: 950
Shader : 1900
Memory: 1145

Shame there's a bad batch :s
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Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby larchy on Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:49 am

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I think nVidia's 28nm are launching in the new year too aren't they? Now TSMC has managed to un-b0rk its fabs

Never liked nVidia's uber-stutter which goes back to when they first had a unified architecture and they've never fixed it. Tech Report has recently found a way of quantifying it by measuring frame render times.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21982/6

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Yep. The GeForces crank out so many frames in 40-ms or more, it's not pretty. In fact, it's much, much uglier than the show the Radeons put on in Fear no evil. Even when we buff out the very highest peaks with our 99th-percentile calculation, the GeForces come out looking very weak. It's not just about numbers, either. Playing this section with a GeForce, the latency spikes were very palpable, causing animations seemingly to speed up and slow down wantonly. The game felt smooth, and we didn't notice any huge skips, but the illusion of motion was compromised—much more so than with the Radeons in Fear no evil.

Note that, looking at the raw FPS averages, you'd think nothing was wrong—fresh evidence of that metric's pitfalls.


Ati has it as well... just never seems as bad.

Driver issues... meh, had far more with nVidia that I ever have with Ati. Stats released by MS showed nVidia was solely responsible for about a third of all Vista crashes (from personal experience I'm surprised it was so low, they had 64bit drivers for about 18months that weren't stable just on the desktop). The artificial 32bit addressing limit introduced to XP in SP2 was as a direct consequence of nVidia's inability to write a driver than didn't crash when dealing with >4GB address space. Historically nVidia are quite shit.

Still, you get issues regardless of who you're with... RAGE apparently wasn't pretty on Ati at launch; supposedly the 16.7 million shades of indistinct brown weren't high resolution enough or something.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:43 pm

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Think my Samsung 226bw is dying. When it goes to sleep its a pain to get back on. Sometimes it comes on but flickers like fuck before settling down. Once working it's fine but coming out of sleep or being switched on while pc left all day on it goes nuts. Sometimes have to reboot to get it back on :(

So I'm looking for a 27" screen and LED. Overclockers have some deals of Ilyama 27" this week.

3 to choose from and my memories of the old Ilyama CRT screens were very good.

Just not sure the best screen for what I want. Gaming, movies and general use.

This for instance : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 20&subcat=

Low response time and that but are these screens decent quality, colours and all that jazz or can you suggest something better for similar monies.

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Postby Klors on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:20 pm

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I like the look of http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/gadgets/ ... ed-display

Saw it in a PcPro when they reviewed it, it got a surprisingly good review for the price.
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Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby larchy on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:38 pm

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Used to have a 226BW too and replaced it with some similar 27" thingy last year and tbh, yeah the colours are a bit pants if I stop to think about it, there's some ghosting in games in places of high contrast/rapid movement (because the low response times they advertise are as a result of some form of overshoot tech which gives a better marketing number but looks shit in practice) blah blah and all the other stuff reviewers like to blather on about to justify their biscuit money.

But in reality they're absolutely champion for the likes of us. Unless you do proper photo work and need an IPS screen (a proper one, not one of these cheapy eIPS shenanigans) just get a decent make and you'll be fine... Samsung, Iiyama, ASUS maybe


Edit: oh, look, I turned overdrive off, hurrah!

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:19 pm

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Had a little rethink on this and fancy 120hz but drop down to a 24".

I see BenQ have this coming out nowish : http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420t

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:48 pm

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Well waited for the BenQ XL2420T and its still a no show. My monitor has finally died so had to get something fast.

Maybe a bit over the top but gone with this

Got it for a bit less as purchased in Spain.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Karver on Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:07 pm

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My missus would go mental if I bought a whole new room when I was meant to be buying just a monitor ;)
The sooner you get behind, the longer you have to catch up.

Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:23 pm

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Lucky for me I'm the captain of my own ship so no birds will be griefing me over the purchase :D

Seeing one at the mo but any grief she gets kicked into touch!

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Postby Karver on Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:21 pm

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Pers wrote:Lucky for me I'm the captain of my own ship so no birds will be griefing me over the purchase :D

Seeing one at the mo but any grief she gets kicked into touch!


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Re: New gfx card and monitor

Postby Pers on Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:00 am

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Sadly not Karv. You not heard of that saying out in the sticks?

Anyways got a new job and had a touch on a extra months pay so would be rude not to treat myself.

Looks like there are some hacked drivers for the monitor which allow you to use the Samsung 3D setup as if it's Nvidia 3D vision.


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