Component reference 08/04/09

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Cacker on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:38 pm

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From wikipedia

SATA 1.5 Gbit/s and SATA 3 Gbit/s

The designers of SATA aimed for backward and forward compatibility with future revisions of the SATA standard.[22]

According to the hard drive manufacturer Maxtor, motherboard host controllers using the VIA and SIS chipsets VT8237, VT8237R, VT6420, VT6421L, SIS760, SIS964 found on the ECS 755-A2 manufactured in 2003, do not support SATA 3 Gbit/s drives. Additionally, these host controllers do not support SATA 3 Gbit/s optical disc drives. To address interoperability problems, the largest hard drive manufacturer, Seagate/Maxtor, has added a user-accessible jumper-switch known as the Force 150, to switch between 150 MB/s and 300 MB/s operation.[23] Users with a SATA 1.5 Gbit/s motherboard with one of the listed chipsets should either buy an ordinary SATA 1.5 Gbit/s hard disk, buy a SATA 3 Gbit/s hard disk with the user-accessible jumper, or buy a PCI or PCI-E card to add full SATA 3 Gbit/s capability and compatibility. Western Digital uses a jumper setting called OPT1 Enabled to force 150 MB/s data transfer speed. OPT1 is used by putting the jumper on pins 5 & 6.
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Quinnbeast on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:02 pm

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Yeah, the general consensus seems to be that it should work just fine, with a slim chance that the board won’t recognise it.

I’ll give it a shot. The Serial ATA adapter might be an option if it comes down to it, assuming I can actually squeeze the fecker in next to my Zalman gfx cooler. It could well be a PITATBPFO.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:09 pm

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Yeah no problems m8, the Intel controllers are fine.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Quinnbeast on Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:49 pm

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Cheers larch. Even though my last mobo purchase was a cheap-shit one, I'm grateful that it's Intel's cheap-shit, which at least means that it works.

Also, Ebuyer are still on top form too I see. Ordered two WD6400AAKS drives and a Corsair 16gb memory stick on Sunday night... got them noon today (tuesday) with free delivery. They're pretty bloody good these days.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Fantastic. The drives worked straight out of the box. Fired up XP with SP3 integrated, no apparent need to run a driver for them either. I'm pretty sure the install of XP I was running was about 5 years old: there's been some real shit gathering up over the years. So much so that I feel like I've just washed my pants for the very first time.

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Windows 7 from power on ot desktop - 16secs! Installed in about 5mins too.


Indilinx Barefoot, no stuttering at all (and beleive me I've chucked some really horrible small file writes at it).

Awesome - fantastic value and faster than the Intel drive on occasion!

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Klors on Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:56 pm

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How much does one of those set one back?

I'll be in the market for anew machine sometime after i get the old windows 7 through.
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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£225.95

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Sweet, that's 128GB? Sounds like a plan.
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Yeah

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1651&pageID=7406

It's basically a Barefoot drive, but with the newer good firmware, more cache and cheaper than everyone else. I was gonna get the Corsair 'OMGEXTREEEMEMESZ!' one, but it's the same drive for more money :/

Overc0kers have them a bit cheaper but they're arseholes. Their extra delivery charge makes up the difference anyway I think.

Crucial service was excellent... next day with the 1st class option. Ordered another one!


Also, phhhr my mighty negative CPU usage.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Klors on Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:05 pm

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:57 am

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oooo, nice.

Do they come bigger than 128gb? What type of connector are they? Would I need a riser card? Does it work with EDO ram? Does it have a maths copro?

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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numpty. it's SATA, so drop in replacement for any of your HDs

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:11 pm

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The 256GB ones are about £400 - just check the Crucial site.

There are a few Indilinx Barefoot drives knocking around, but the Crucial ones are the cheapest right now.

Only thing out there faster is the Intel G2 (not the first gen one) 160GB, but I'm not sure they're even available just yet what with the recall due to the BIOS bug... plus they are astronomically priced.

They are just standard SATA connections teeks, although I would seriously recommend running in AHCI mode with Windows 7 for TRIM support.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Gotcha

AHCI in W7 for TRIM.

What?!!!

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:59 pm

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SSDs slow down and go to shit very quickly.

The only way to fix this is to use a special utility to perform a wipe of every block on the drive (this is different from just a normal format, but has the same effect of wiping all your data).

To avoid the need for this happening in the first place they created something called the TRIM command.

TRIM is only supported by Windows 7.

For TRIM to work you need to set your SATA controller to AHCI mode in your motherboard's BIOS setup menu.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:29 am

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Where there best place to buy those crucial SSDs larchy?


Ahh from the crucial site. Is this the one?

128GB Crucial M225 2.5" Solid-State Drive
CT128M225

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:01 am

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I would say so m8 yeah

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspe ... =CT128M225

Got a couple and delivery was very fast, next day. Special Delivery at 7am ftw \o/

Think Overc0ckers have them a bit cheaper, but they charge more for delivery. Plus, they are cnuts.


Wouldn't maybe worry too much about TRIM actually as these drives are losing maybe 5% performance with use, so it's no big deal. The Samsung controller drives are losing around 70% D:

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 am

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Weird question Larchy, but... the delivery service from Crucial, do they arrive in boxes small enough to fit through a letterbox? I fly home on Sunday and would like to have a drive waiting for me, but I can only get it delivered to my home address..

Also I dont want to wait for one to get delivered omgomgogmogmomgomg

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