Component reference 08/04/09

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Klors on Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:39 pm

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Yeah. Did the tsunami re-runs and whatnot cause more memory production slowdowns like last time? Or is it just W7 release + good demand allowing them to get away with charging more?
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:46 pm

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Last year there was a glut of MLC NAND flash and prices were rock bottom, so the mfgs cut production. Now we're in a position of reduced production and higher demand because everyone is buying SSDs now, leading to things like Newegg charging double the RRP for the Intel drives in the US.

This is what I said originally... and I think makes far more sense than what Crucial told teeks.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:21 pm

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Crucial firmware 1819 is available here if you're feeling brave.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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handy site, skinflint.co.uk, comparison site. Also gives you prices in the EU, eg

za rinky dink

Shows the 256gb for £247, don't know about P&P. But fack, even the price comparison site prices are way lower than the actual sites, eg overcockers. must be going up fast :(
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:22 am

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Wrong drive - that's the P series which is Samsung controller and crap.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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oi tort it was the performance range everyone bought. .. or did you get extweemes ?
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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:59 am

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Well, everyone bought the M series Crucials with the Indilinx Barefoot controller, which would be the same as the 'extreme' Corsairs (the drive you link to is a Corsair not a Crucial too... no difference except the Corsairs were dearer last time I checked).

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:50 am

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Just had to RMA an M225 and the nice girl on the Crucial support line informed me that, apparently, their (£320 and climbing) 128GB SSD drives are sold 'for extra storage, not for extra performance'.

I don't think she was too pleased when I asked her cost per GB compared to mechanical units :P


Honestly.... where do they get this stuff from :rolling:

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:47 am

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Just to correct a few errors from a while back... it turns out that actually you don't need AHCI mode for TRIM, it works fine with a controller in IDE mode.

You do need to be using the Microsoft drivers though, since 3rd party drivers (notably the Intel ones) don't pass the TRIM command.

Also firmware 1571 for the barefoots doesn't support TRIM. 1819 does (called 1.4 by OCZ/Patriot and some others), but there are possibly some (serious) performance issues with it.



Sorry about that, but this basic shit seems impossible to get an official answer on and even the major tech sites and mods employed by the companies on their official boards are posting incorrect or vague information.


Crucial Wiper Tool for regaining performance on used drives without TRIM - needs to run in admin mode. Might be handy to run every couple of months until TRIM gets sorted properly, although do heed the warnings about data loss if it goes tits up (although it seems to work perfectly fine tbh).

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:40 pm

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:22 pm

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Not really, unless you feel your drive's performance is starting to get a bit sluggish. That's really going to depend on your usage pattern, and at the very most it's a once-every-few-months sorta thing... but probably nto even that often.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:14 am

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Crucial M225 Firmware 1916

TRIM support but none of the weird performance problems that 1819 had.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:55 am

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You flashed yours yet larchy?

Whats that Crucial wiper tool do exactly?!

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:05 am

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Yeah I've done mine and given it a week or so to see if it went tits up... all is well! You do need to temporarily change the controller back to IDE mode for the flash utility to work btw


The wiper tool is basically a manual TRIM - the idea is you run it every so often to perform garbage collection when your drive isn't running with TRIM.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:19 am

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Gotcha.

So stick the drive back to IDE, flash it, back to [whatever the option is called again - SATA?] and all's good?

Any point in running that wiper tool even with the firmware upgrade?

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby larchy on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:34 am

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Yeah just change the controller mode to 'IDE' so the flash tool works, then change it back to AHCI (which is probably labelled 'SATA'). The tool boots from CD obviously... or USB if you're feeling adventurous... so no Windows/OS driver problems.



Once you've flashed to the 1916 firmware it is probably a good idea to run the wiper tool because TRIM will only be working on current file operations... and existing 'dirty' parts of the drive will stay dirty unless you run the wiper.


So... I'd flash it, then run the wiper to make sure every part of the drive is 'reset', then forget about it :)

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby TK421 on Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:04 pm

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AHCI, that's the badger.

I'll try it when I get home tonight. If I'm not about for L4D2 assume I broke it.

Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

Postby Tonster on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:54 am

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Re: Component reference 08/04/09

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NVIDIA seem to be in trouble ? a blip or the start of a slide ?

riricon rafers

AMD must be rubbing their hands with glee. And, notably, from the above charts, the top end AMD X4 965 is only £149 notes ??? Do they overclock as well as intel ? ATI must be rubbing their hands with glee. There's alot of glee at AMD.
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