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Tips on a new lens

Postby Promac on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:40 am

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Hey all,

Recently got myself a Canon EOS 450D and I'm really having fun with it. It came with the 18-55 kit lens but now I'm starting to think of what my next lens will be. I know people here have the same or similar camera and wondered if anyone has any advice on what lenses to go for next.

For now I'm just running around Dublin snapping anything that catches my eye to get used to the camera again but I'm going on a trip to New Zealand in a few weeks so I'm hoping to catch some nice scenery. I was thinking a decent wide angle might be a good start for that but I have absolutely no idea what a decent one is these days.

Any help - mucho obrigado :)

Re: Tips on a new lens

Postby TK421 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:08 am

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The Canon 10-22mm EF-S is a fantastic wide angle lens, I used mine loads for some great landscapes and distorted up-close type shots. My mate is now using my old 20D and that's his favourite lens by far.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/contr ... elid=10510

The 28-135mm EF is also a great lens for most day-to-day stuff, with a nice range and good quality glass.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/contr ... delid=7337

For zoom the 70-300 unstabilised isn't bad and not that expensive, I had he stabilised version and had some lovely close up shots.

If you're serious about lenses then have a look at the Canon L series (they have a red ring on the lens), but you'll be paying through your teeth (I'm about to buy a 16-35mm L for £1400!)

I cant give you any advise on any tamron or other manufacturers as I've stuck to Canon only.

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Postby Monie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:49 am

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I find the kit lens that comes with the 450D very good indeed - i only own that and a 200mm sigma lens for sports photography.

I suppose ideally i'll look to find me a wide angled one at some point too but i've been very impressed with the one that came with it.

Re: Tips on a new lens

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I've got the Canon 70-300 IS USM and it's a good zoom lens, can't see me needing another until the day I sell my family for some L glass. Big heavy mofo though.

I also bought a 'nifty fifty' (F1.8 50mm) which is superb in low light, though on a 1.6 crop factor body like the 450D I find the apparent focal length too long for indoor portrait shots. That said prime's are great for low light shooting, I avoid artificial lights as far as possible, and at less than £80 new it's an absolute bargain. Don't be put off by the low price, these lenses have been around since time began and they're very simple so manufacturers can fart them out.

The above won't really help with landscapes I admit, but just sharing the little I know :P You might also want to look into filters, lens hoods and tripod.

I need to get a new lens or two as well, something to replace the 50mm in the 20-25mm range, and maybe a macro lens.

Anyone know if Image Stabilisation on lenses actually makes much difference?

Re: Tips on a new lens

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In low light situations stabilisation can help, but I've always had a tripod for those moments so I disable it to save battery. I wouldn't bother spending extra moneys

I've got the F1.2 of the 50mm Tonst, and I found it limited on a full sized sensor, so I know exactly what you mean. It's great though, can get over exposed shots of stars at 6400 iso with only an 10 second exposure!

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Nice one chaps. That 10-22 looks the business teeks - I'll have to have a rummage and see if I can get a cheap one. It's a bit pricey for now.

Otherwise -the 450D kit lens is great. Haven't really found any limitations so far, although I'm still finding my feet with Digital SLR's. I really miss the dial on the front that handled aperture. Just doesn't feel right. Don't miss manual focus though!

Re: Tips on a new lens

Postby shardy on Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:23 pm

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Sigma do a wide angle version Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC HSM that can be picked up for approx 300 notes second hand one here in fact http://www.avforums.com/forums/digital- ... ens-2.html

IS does make a difference it gives you a couple more stops of play handheld in low light ie in a church wedding ceremony can't use flash tripod too restrictive the IS helps! If however landscapes is your thang tripod is your friend so not as much an issue

Another vote for the nifty fifty here too for 50 notes second hand its an ace lens to have in the kitbag and the 28-135 IS top lense for the price 200 ish second hand :)

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Postby Mongrel on Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:53 am

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Canon 24-105 F4L is a pretty good walk around lens. Reasonably wide (but not so that you get distortion) with a good telephoto reach as well.

The downside is that it doesn't have a wide aperture setting BUT can still cope with low light because it has image stabilisation built in.
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I've got that lens and it is indeed lovely, but a bit pricey! I'd go for the 28-135 first, then the 10-22 Sigma/Canon.

I just realised I have too many bloody lenses.

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TK421 wrote:I've got that lens and it is indeed lovely, but a bit pricey! I'd go for the 28-135 first, then the 10-22 Sigma/Canon.

I just realised I have too many bloody lenses.


You know, you could always sell some of them cheap....

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Postby TK421 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:27 pm

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I probably will, but a mate is using the camera at the moment so once he's bored I might look into it.

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Re: Tips on a new lens

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Canon or Sigma wide angle is next on my list to buy (and has been for about two years).

Re: Tips on a new lens

Postby Klors on Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:43 pm

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1ds mkIII is next on my list.... i have a feeling my list is going to stay the same length for quite a while... (ok maybe i could settle for a 5d mkii)
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Postby TK421 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:20 pm

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Go for it Klors, you wont be disappointed. Unless of course you take it somewhere where the government and locals are mega paranoid and wont allow you to take photos OF ANYTHING

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How you find it for autofocus on fast targets? as good as the 20d? better?
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Postby Monie on Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:35 pm

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Promac wrote:
For now I'm just running around Dublin snapping anything that catches my eye to get used to the camera again

Give me a shout if you want to head out for snaps at some point - i've not been out in ages with the Camera!

Re: Tips on a new lens

Postby TK421 on Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:32 am

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That didn't sound gay AT ALL Monie!

Klors, I haven't had a decent chance to use it in those ind of situations, but it seems to do everything better than the 20D so far.

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TK421 wrote:That didn't sound gay AT ALL Monie!

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Re: Tips on a new lens

Postby Mongrel on Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:27 pm

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Klors wrote:How you find it for autofocus on fast targets? as good as the 20d? better?


I could be hideously wrong but I understood that that autofocus on the 5D MKII was exactly the same as the 5D. I did look at upgrading for improved autofocus but, well, not really worth it if you get exactly the same :roll:

Also, a shamelesss plug, but i've got a friend who's selling his 1DS MKIII. 5,000 shutter actuations, £3,500 ono. If you're interested then give me a shout :)
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